Posted 7 Nov 2006 · Report post ce parere aveti de asta? pe mine m-a cam intristat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 7 Nov 2006 · Report post Dezamagitor intr-adevar...Poate asta iti va mai lumina fruntea http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6518118248698454614&q=climbing+snow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 7 Nov 2006 · Report post pe mine nu m-a intristat. nu are cu ce. pe langa faptul ca mi se pare a fi o facatura pe fata, restul ma lasa rece. ceea ce cred este faptul ca, in primul rand, nu au ales bine masinile. xc-ul este o masina de "oras" cu ceva valente off-road. de fapt nu mi se pare spus bine off-road, cu toate ca ne-am obisnuit ca orice masina 4x4 sa o numim asa, ci mai degraba o masina cu o tractiune care sa nu te lase la greu. si "la greu" inteleg situatii de drum alunecos (ud, polei, zapada) decat sa urci cu ea pe munti.dar, sa analizam putin diferentele:1. Subaru Legacy: transmisie 4x4 permanent - 4WD; tractiune principala: toate rotile - 60% spate - 40% fata; motor: 3L BOXER, 245 CP, 297 Nm.2. Volvo XC70: transmisie 4x4 nepermanent - AWD; tractiune principala: fata - in cazul pierderii aderentei intervine sistemul TRACS ce regleaza impreuna cu ABS-ul tractiunea pe fiecare roata, tractiunea pe spate fiind transmisa printr-un vasco-cuplaj; optional, sistemul poate fi dezactivat din buton de la bord; motor 2,5L linie, 210 CP, 320 Nm.din start se poate observa un dejavantaj major in ceea ce priveste transmisia.revenind la primul filmulet, se poate observa in primul rand maniera de a "ataca" panta respectiva. cu Subaru se urca la o turatie constanta, fara a rupe aderenta, iar pentru Volvo se pleaca de la inceput cu motorul turat, "jucandu-se" cu ambreiajul. apoi... no comment. iar rotile din spate nu ajuta deloc, lucru ce nu se poate intampla decat daca sistemul amintit mai sus (TRACS) este dezactivat. apropos, sistemul vine "default" pe masina, optiune fiind doar butonul de dezactivare. deci, daca nu te joci pe la butoane , la momentul in care rotile din fata pierd aderenta automat computerul regleaza aceasta deficienta prin transmiterea fortei catre rotile din spate. eu cam atat am avut de spus. as putea vorbi la nesfarsit, dar nu vreau sa va plictisesc . concluziile la ce am "aberat" eu mai sus le trageti singuri....M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 9 Nov 2006 · Report post Imi place sa-mi critic masina cind este cazul, ...sa spun ca am un consum mediu in oras de 20l/100km, dar ce am vazut in filmuletul de mai sus este o dezinformare totala, un filmulet ce NU reflecta realitatea.Primul aspect este cel mentionat de Shpeedy mai sus.Al 2-lea si tot la fel de important sint anvelopele, nu stiu daca se specifica in filmulet.Tractiunea fara anvelope adecvate este egal cu zero.Daca masinile au anvelope cu profil diferit, testul este = o.Pante ca cele din filmulet am urcat foarte multe, intr-adevar nu cu noroi, dar cu zapada sau gheata.Nu numai ca urca foarte usor, dar imi permit sa opresc in panta si sa pornesc fara probleme.Au fost cazuri cind pe panta era gheata si am facut aceasi manevra, oprire in panta cu plecare de pe loc.Aceeasi panta abrupta plina cu zapada, 5 persoane in masina, aceeasi manevra, oprire in panta cu plecare de pe loc.Nu vreau acum sa exagerez cu experientele mele si prin noroi dar nu au fost cazuri in care sa am probleme cu tractiunea indiferent de anotimp.Ba mai mult, sint foarte multumit de comportamentul masinii in off road!Curios faptul ca numai rotile fata trageau, tractiunea la masina asta se transfera instantaneu pe rotile care au aderenta mai buna.Daca 3 roti sint pe gheata si una pe uscat, proportia se transmite pe roata cu aderenta mai mare, lucru simtit si la masina mea.Plus ca intervine TRACS, sistemul antipatinaj pe fiecare roata independent, ceea ce nu am vazut in filmulet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 9 Nov 2006 · Report post un articol care mi-a placut.... cred ca reflecta putin diferentele intre Volvo si alte masini intr-un mod cat se poate de profesional.What's the most important factor people look at when buying an off-road wagon? Ground clearance? Approach and departure angles? Differential locks? Tyres? In the image-driven 21st century the people who buy 4x4s often do so to make a fashion statement. Parked in front of the house they look great. In the shopping centre they send out the message that the tubby housewife loading the Pick 'n' Pay packets into the luggage area is actually a serious adventurer. Drivers of lesser vehicles know not to mess with the superior beings towering above them at the robots. But do these wonder-chariots ever go out and get their boots wet and muddy playing in the dirt? Must be crazy, doll. This thing costs more than my house! After an exploratory foray down a dirt road or two in the early days of ownership they're condemned to a life of Sandton semi-retirement. But the Volvo Cross Country V70 XC is different. It doesn't look like a 4x4, so those not in the know will be unimpressed. But it does boast all-wheel-drive, and, when you take a closer look at the sump-guard and plastic body protectors you realise that it's meant to cope with more than a couple of icy European roads. The reality, of course, is that, like almost of the suburban all-wheel drive wagons, the Volvo wasn't designed to be a true bundu basher. But, like virtually all of its ilk, it's capable of much more than 95% of buyers would ever ask of it in off-road conditions, without battering itself to death -- provided common sense prevails. Despite its non-butch appearance the Cross Country has fairly good off-road credentials. Ground clearance is 193mm -- up from the 134mm of the standard V70 wagons -- and alloy wheels are clad with Pirelli Scorpion 215/65R16 rubber. The all-wheel-drive system delivers about 95% of the torque to the front wheels under normal conditions, but fancy electronics take over and adjust the split between front and rear axles as soon as there's a traction problem. In addition, Volvo's Tracs system monitors wheelspin and applies the brakes to any offending wheels, allowing the differentials to redistribute the power to the opposite side of the car when necessary. The Cross Country's 20-valve five-cylinder engine is unique to this model. Displacing 2435cc, it utilises a low pressure turbocharger to boost output to 147kW at 5100rpm and a healthy 285Nm of torque at 1800rpm. On-road performance is not in the league of the 250kph V70 T5 version of the wagon, which uses a 2319cc 184kW unit fitted with a high-pressure turbo, but the wide torque spread allows the all-wheel-drive Volvo to get to 100kph in around nine seconds, and the top speed of more than 200kph is pretty healthy for such a big vehicle with reasonable off-road ability. The test car was equipped with a five-speed auto transmission with Geartronic shifting. Unlike some other gearboxes that claim to allow you to shift them like a manual transmission, this one really lets you do so by simply flicking the shift lever one way or another. We like it. The Volvo is a big car and it feels it, especially around town. The overall impression is one of stateliness rather than sportiness, with a soft ride and a bulky feel. Of course, the size pays off in terms of accommodation. There's a whopping 485 litres luggage space with all the seats filled, and the rear bench has a 40/20/40 split to offer more room when needed. With the seat folded away there's 1641 litres available for stowage. The Volvo V70 XC is a well-rounded vehicle. It boasts all the electronic bells and whistles you would expect in a typically Swedish quality package. It's quick, can cope very well with bad roads, and fairly well where they're almost non-existent. For the conservative type who wants a classy wagon that does not look or feel like a 4x4, but can get the job done, there's not much to touch the Volvo except the Audi allroad, which is a better all-round performer but costs about R100000 more. At R372000 (R362000 for the manual version) the Volvo offers good value for those who know what they want and have the money to buy it. sursa: http://www.q.co.za/ (Q-online - our world our way)M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Posted 6 Apr 2007 · Report post Chiar daca nu's chiar aceleashi conditiii da trebue luat in considerarehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uhvfaTwKGg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
