Posted 12 Mar 2010 · Report post care sint motivele pentru care ford vinde volvo ?1. volvo nu aduce profitsau / si2. ford vrea sa vina pe piata cu ceva nou in gama ocupata de volvo (adica berline de lux , crossovere de lux, suv de lux). nu puteti spune ca mondeo e masina care se poate bate in clasa berlinelor de lux sau premium.daca e adevarat motivul 1 : ce pot face chinezii sa devina volvo profitabil in europa ? (in china pot reduce cheltuielile cu multe lucruri). dupa parerea mea, nimic. daca se putea face ceva s-ar fi facut. si-atunci ma intreb : vor tine chinezii pe pierderi europa ? io zic ca nu. cel putin nu mult timp. si-atunci ce vor face ? pai au mai multe variante:- sa faca piese in china si sa le asambleze in europa (posibil)- sa aduca chinezi in europa (imposibil)- sa reduca cheltuielile cu cercetatrea in europa (posibil)- sa inchida productia in europa (posibil)- sa micsoreze salariile in europa (posibil)toate masurile posibile in europa ma fac sa ma indoiesc ca in urmatorii 4-5 ani volvo va mai fi ce-a fost.daca e adevarat motivul 2:atunci exista o sansa ca volvo sa ramina ce-a fost, insa cred atit de putin in varianta asta.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Mar 2010 · Report post daca se putea face ceva s-ar fi facut. si-atunci ma intreb : vor tine chinezii pe pierderi europa ? io zic ca nu. cel putin nu mult timp. si-atunci ce vor face ?Bineinteles ca nu vor tine pe pierderi (singurul care isi permit luxul asta-pentru ca este un lux- este VW cu Bugatti; i-ati crezut pe cei de la GM cand au zis ca de vreo 20 de ani SAAB nu le aducea profit? eu nu i-am crezut, n-are nici o logica, dar in fine, sa revenim) Vor face ce au facut si indienii cu Land Rover, adica o marca profitabila, avand un sistem de organizare echilibrat (altfel nu vor avea vreo sansa sa faca din Volvo un constructor profitabil decat in China, Doamne fereste!). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Mar 2010 · Report post Pai indienii nu au facut altceva decat sa faca din 2 firme una singura Jaguar Land Rover, au scos un model Jaguar nou (Jaguar XJ) deci au facut ceva .Eu inca nu am auzit de esecuri la firme chinezesti, deci chiar cred in succesul lui Volvo sub conducere chineza .Si mai cred ca noul S60 o sa fie un real succes, are si sasiu bun are si motoare bune, cu siguranta este o reteta a succesului . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Mar 2010 · Report post Geely May Need $1.4 Billion to Revive Volvo After Ford DealMarch 10, 2010, 1:28 PM ESTMore From BusinessweekGeely May Need at Least $1.4 Billion to Revive Volvo (Update1) Ford, Geely Said to Miss Feb. 14 Target on Volvo Deal (Update2) China Auto Prices Rise Most in at Least Four Years (Update1) Ford, Geely Said to Miss Feb. 14 Target for Signing Volvo Deal Ford, Geely Said to Miss Feb. 14 Target on Volvo Deal (Update2) Story Toolse-mail this story print this story digg this save to del.icio.us By Ola Kinnander and Keith NaughtonMarch 11 (Bloomberg) -- Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Co. may have to spend at least 10 billion kronor ($1.4 billion) to revive Volvo Cars after buying the Swedish brand from Ford Motor Co., Volvo union officials and board members said.The figure would be “an absolute minimum†for financing car development, marketing, production and distribution in the next year, and the money needed could be double that amount, Glenn Magnusson, head of the managers’ union at Gothenburg, Sweden-based Volvo, said in an interview.Ford and Geely will probably sign a purchase agreement on the estimated $2 billion transaction toward the end of the month, according to three people familiar with the talks. Four unions said Feb. 5 that they would accept Geely as the new owner of Volvo as long as the Chinese manufacturer proves it can fund operations.“We still want them to show us that they have the financial strength,†Magnusson said yesterday by telephone. “We haven’t seen anything yet and we are not satisfied.â€Anders Fogel, a partner at Brunswick Group in Stockholm who acts as Geely’s spokesman, said talks are proceeding according to plan, and that the carmakers are sticking to a target of reaching an accord by the end of March.Ford is “still working toward a definitive agreement by the end of the first quarter and to close the sale by the end of the second,†said Mark Truby, a spokesman at the Dearborn, Michigan-based company.Provincial GovernmentsRegulatory approvals would come after any signing, followed by a transfer of ownership by June 30, two of the people said, speaking on condition they not be identified because the talks aren’t public.Geely has received funding in the past few days to cover the purchase price from a combination of Chinese financial institutions, underwritten by provincial governments, one of the people said, declining to specify any amount the manufacturer is providing. The Chinese automaker told Ford in December that it had enough funds to operate Volvo as a sustainable business, the person said.Ford, which lost $30 billion in the three years beginning in 2006, put Volvo up for sale in late 2008, part of a strategy of dropping European luxury lines to concentrate on its namesake brand. The U.S. company acquired the division for $6.5 billion in 1999. Geely, China’s largest private automaker based on 2008 sales, wants to gain insights into Western vehicle development and manufacturing through buying a mainstream European brand.Profit TargetGeely “will need to invest in Volvo’s operations at least as much as they’re paying to buy us,†Magnus Sundemo, a Volvo board member who represents the engineering union, said in a telephone interview. “We have big investment needs, especially if we’re going to grow significantly in China.â€The spending would be necessary to realize Geely’s goal of building 200,000 Volvo cars a year in China, and to rebuild dealers’ network, Sundemo said.Thomas Ivonen, another labor representative on Volvo’s board, said in a separate interview that he agrees with Magnusson’s cost estimates. Part of the spending will have to go toward the introduction of smaller models, he said.Volvo’s goal is to return to profit next year or “possibly late this year,†after which the carmaker can begin to fund its own investment needs, Magnusson said. The last time Volvo reported a profit was in 2005, when it had pretax earnings of $377 million.updateI think dependable is mistranslation and this should be reliable. I also think the edit of adding the brackets confuses what he was actually sayingVolvo union's figure not dependable, Geely exec saysPublished: 11 Mar 2010 23:02:01 PSTA senior executive at Zhejiang Geely Holding Group says the figure released by Volvo union officials and board members is not dependable, responding to media report which said Geely needed spend at least $1.4 billion to revive the Ford's unit."It was just a number from the Volvo union, not from the management layer," said the executive. "I am sure that Geely doesn't lack the money (to buy Volvo)."Geely has reportedly secured funds to buy Ford-owned Volvo for about 15 billion Swedish crowns ($2.1 billion). Chinese media have predicted Geely will sign the deal on March 31 at the latest.Agencies and Shi Jierui contributed to this storyExplore the WorldInca e imputita treaba. Mai mancam un Mc, mai bem o cola, mai vedem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Mar 2010 · Report post cam multi banuti pt chinezi ... oricat de avuti ar fi in zilele astea! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Mar 2010 · Report post ...cu banii aia mai bine cercetau o sursa viabila de energie alternativa - parca se termina petrolul in citiva ani, nu ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Mar 2010 · Report post Incepand cu intalnirea de saptamana viitoare Danyx sa se astepte la "circa 250" 紅牛- Hóngniú(n.a.: redbule)... ;Dhttp://economie.hotnews.ro/stiri-auto-7061239-financial-times-vanzarea-volvo-catre-chinezii-geely-anuntata-oficial-sfarsitul-saptamanii.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Mar 2010 · Report post bravo, s-a terminat. Acum putem din nou sa ne indreptam atentia catre masinile noastre adevarate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Mar 2010 · Report post Mda, sa tinem de vechiturile noastre... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Mar 2010 · Report post We're doomed...Oamenii trebuie sa mentina niste standarde de calitate. Nu vad ce interes ar avea sa duca marca de rapa sau sa-i schimbe targetul. Poate n-o sa fie asa rau. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Mar 2010 · Report post Adica tradus in romana ar suna asa, "chinezii nu e prostii ca daca era dadea foc la alea 2 miliarde si dansau in jurul focului" .Din moment ce dau "neste" banutzi e clar ca vor sa faca treaba, abia astept sa vad ce idei le mai vin "micutzilor " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Mar 2010 · Report post Or sa scoata S80 cu motor de 1.2 in 3 pistoane. Aia inca mananca serpi, caini si pisici si voi va asteptati sa imbunatateasca volvo :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Mar 2010 · Report post pai in china tot ce misca si creste e bun de mancat, biologic (nu bio neaparat) e materie comestibila; pana si in america ie unii care manca din gunoi, ce sa ne miram de galbejiti ; miliardu' jumate tre hranit cu ceva, e liber la cantina! , da, nene, vor sa ia Volvo !?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Mar 2010 · Report post Sa ia Volvo si sa faca din el ce au facut indienii cu Land Rover si Jaguar si ma imbat de fericire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Mar 2010 · Report post Si yo zic idem Sa-l faca macar la fel de prost ca un Range dar sa aiba ecranul ala DUAL VIEW cu touchscreen ca ala face tot farmecul la un Range . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 27 Mar 2010 · Report post dap,azi am discutat cu un reprezentant de vazari de la volovo,initial ma interesa un v50 dar surpriza,au inceput sistarea comenzilor pentru v-uri ,nu prea a dat bine pe piata de la noi ?!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 27 Mar 2010 · Report post luati acu volvo, cit nu se cunoaste reducerea de fonduri chinezeasca. la anul n-o sa mai fie asa...valabil pentru cei care vor un volvo neaparat. la anu' e alta treaba. sorry, andyro.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 27 Mar 2010 · Report post @leose Pai romanul nu prea se omoara dupa dricuri, probabil ca de aceia nici nu apare V70 in oferta Primus, V50 probabil ca nu s-au vandut foarte multe dar seria XC bate record dupa record la vanzari in RO, asa tara asa oferte @Iuli, bai nene eu iti recomand sa vinzi masina, chiar am client pt ea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 27 Mar 2010 · Report post 48.000 si n-o dau ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2010 · Report post Oare ce s-o anunta Press conference with Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, Ford Motor Company and Volvo Car CorporationThere will be a press conference held at Volvo Cars, Gothenburg with Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, Ford Motor Company and Volvo Car Corporation. It will start today 28 March at 15.20 pm CET.At 15.20 the live webcast will start. As soon as possible, after the press conference there will be an edited version available on demand. Please click on the link below for viewing.https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/enhanced/en-gb/Media/Preview.aspx?mediaid=32185Sursa:Volvo Cars Media Site Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2010 · Report post Deci...s-a semnat acordul..https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/enhanced/en-gb/Media/Preview.aspx?mediaid=32193Acum putem sa ne vedem si noi de vietile noastre !? Best,H Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2010 · Report post ä½å¯Œè±ª ! = traiasca volvo !沃尔沃 = volvo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2010 · Report post Stati mai ca tot nu s-a intamplat nimic. E doar o intelegere preliminara pentru ceva care se va intampla spre sfarsitul anului: "The deal is anticipated to be completed in the third quarter of 2010."Suspansul ramane si... mie imi pare ca ford cam trage matza de coada in ultimul timp. Au fost cam multe amanari in ultimul timp.Chiar sunt curios ce se va intampla. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2010 · Report post http://www.wall-street.ro/articol/Auto/82861/Mariaj-dupa-doi-ani-de-tatonari-Volvo-cumparat-de-chinezii-de-la-Geely.htmlSe pare ca nu prea mai trage mata aia de coada.... Sa speram ca bine va fi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
