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Volvo to Switch to Only Four-Cylinder Engines; Bold Move or Crazy Idea?

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Many things have been happening behind the scenes at Volvo since Ford announced it would sell the company, but we hadn't heard that major engine changes was one of them. According to a new report, Volvo will be transitioning to an all four-cylinder engine lineup some time in the next five to ten years.

According to Auto Motor Und Sport, anonymous sources within Volvo say that the company is abandoning five-, six- and eight-cylinder engines in favor of highly advanced four-cylinders. The sources say that Volvo is doing this to meet strict European emissions standards that call for just 120 g/km of CO2 emissions by 2015 and a mere 95 g/km of CO2 by 2020. Volvo apparently thinks that four-cylinder gas and diesel engines with all the latest fuel-saving, emissions-cleaning technology is the way to go.

But wait, is this true? Just the other day, Volvo sent out a long press release extolling its 80-year history of producing six-cylinder engines in both straight and V configurations. Volvo went to a great deal of effort to explain its long history with six-cylinder engines, its reasons for committing to the type and the advancements it made along the way. Could Volvo be trying to soften the blow, or is this rumor just that?

The report goes on to say that Volvo has already sunk a significant amount of money into a new four-cylinder diesel that will be powerful enough to make even the big XC90 feel sporty. Volvo is also reportedly working on a lineup of gas- and diesel-powered four-cylinders of varying capacities and outputs to spread across the range, all of which will be developed by Volvo alone rather than with PSA Citroen or Ford. The first is reported to be a 1.6-liter diesel that could debut as soon as the Frankfurt Motor Show in September. Volvo insiders say that these engines will all be at least as powerful as current Volvo engines, if not more so. The report also says that Volvo's hybrid models are nearing completion and could turn up on the auto show circuit soon as well.

If these sources are correct, it would signal a very bold move from Volvo. The company currently uses a mix of four-, five-, six- and eight-cylinder engines in either straight or V configurations in cars that range from the mid-size S40 up to the XC90 SUV. Swapping them all for four-cylinders could hurt their appeal as well as their ability to compete in their classes with cars with larger engines. The strategy would have even more trouble in the U.S. where diesel cars and SUVs are not very popular. We have our doubts about the validity of this rumor, but what do you think? Could this be a bold move for Volvo or is it lunacy? Leave your thoughts in the comments below.

Sursa: http://wot.motortrend.com/6470632/we-hear/report-volvo-to-switch-to-only-four-cylinder-engines-bold-move-or-crazy-idea/index.html

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deci T5-ul meu va deveni in curind masina de colectie  :D

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Nu prea cred in chestia asta din 2 considerente:

1. un motor in 4 cilindri nu este neaparat mai ecologic

2. motoarele in 5 cilindri erau emblema VOLVO exact cum cele in 6 cilindri in linie erau emblema BMW, cum BMW nu a renuntat in intregime la motoarele in 6 cilindri nu cred ca VOLVO va renunta la toate motoarele in 5 cilindri.

Mai departe trebuie spus ca un motor in 4 cilindri de cilindree mare nu este deloc FUN, zgomotul este specific de 4 cil iar lumea cu bani o sa cumpere in continuare Cayenne V8, Q7 V12 sau XC90 V8 . 

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nici eu nu cred ca se va renunta la 5 cilindri.

de exemplu bmw la 3litri scoate 285 cp (diesel) adica 95 cp/L si e cel mai bun diesel din lume

volvo cu d5-ul la 2.4 litri scoate 77 cp/L , dar ,usor ar putea scoate si ei 95 cp/L(heico remapaeaza si are garantie volvo pentru asta , d5-ul la 220-230cp) si  , deja vor pune si ei 2 turbine....

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sincer sa fiu, mie imi plac cel mai mult moatoarele in 6 cil....mai ales in v, mi se pare cea mai desteapta arhitectura! moatoarele americane v6 sau v8 cu axul cu came un bloc sunt foarte compacte.

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iulirx  mai dizelarule iar ai incurcat borcanele  ;D  BMW 123d   1995cmc @204 CP, deci sare de 100CP/l  .

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da sefu' , dar io ma refeream la motoare mai mari de 4 cilindri, ca doar asta era tema.

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Da sefu ai dreptate dar daca discutam de motoare mai mari de 4 cil  dizal cel mai puternic ramane tot in grupul VAG, 6l V12 TDI @500CP  ;D

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Iar incerc sa privesc problema din alt unghi :D :

Volvo, din ce observ eu, inclusiv la XC90, Volvo pune motoarele longitudinal.

Motivele imi scapa, mie unul mi se pare tampenie sa pui la un AWD motorul longitudinal; ai arborele cotit->fluxul principal de putere-> pe o directie perpendiculara pe directia de mers a masinii, deci trebuie sa il intorci la 90 grade sa te duci spre spate, unde il mai intorci odata la 90 de grade, in diferential, sa il bagi in roti. Totusi, cred ca sunt mai destepti ca mine si, ceea ce mie imi scapa, lor le convine la fix.

Revenind la pozitia motorului. La BMW, de exemplu, motorul transversal poate sa fie lung, 6 cilindrii, lejer, ca ei il imping inspre spate, in consola centrala, si baga cutia de viteze in continuarea lui, sub masina.

Pe longitudinal insa, lungimea motorul devine foarte esentiala. De la spatiul din compartimentul motor, pana la forma acestuia (noile reglementari cu privire la siguranta pietonilor obliga la niste limitari serioase in zona asta).

Cred ca si aici trebuie cautat un motiv pt. decizia Volvo de a ramane in zona celor 4 cilindrii... Si cred ca mai toti producatorii axati exclusiv pe longitudinale vor lua masuri suplimentare, daca vor multe stele la protectie pedestrians...

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Dom' director... daca ar pune motorul longitudinal ca sa transmita mai usor miscarea catre cardan, ce te faci cu tractiunea fata ? Nu trebe' tot sa intorci cumva miscarea tot la 90 de grade ?! Care-i castigu' ?! Nu tot iti trebuie cutie de transfer ?!

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La transversal nu e o intoarcere de 90 de grade pt. front axle, ci un full 180 :D (0:17 in clipul de mai jos).

Dar macar poti pune motoare mari, si echilibrul masinii + incarcarea pe axe este mai buna.

Plus ca eu unul sunt fan al RWD, deci imi place ca, chiar in cazul AWD, acolo sa se duca "spuma" tractiunii... ;D

Oricum, trebuie sa recunosti, nu sunt multe SUV-uri cu motor longitudinal. In afara de XC90 nu pot numi repede altul... Care ar mai fi?

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Aham... cutia in mijlocul masinii ?! Interesant ;D... Sau ce D-zeu e aia. Xdrive-ul ala e cam poo-poo, cel putin in testul ala de urcare pe pista de ski a urcat un pic si fssss.

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Midnighteee, esti cam offtopic :D

Daca vrei, discutam si de x-drive si ce poate el, dar separat ;D, si pot veni cu muuuult mai multe dovezi de superioritate decat acel comparativ "obiectiv" (ghilimele intentionate :P) unde doar Audi-ul avea cauciucuri de iarna... ;) , restul avea All Season, iar BMW, ca intruchipare efectiva a diavolului in ochii Audi, avea cauciucuri de vara :D

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Da sefu ai dreptate dar daca discutam de motoare mai mari de 4 cil  dizal cel mai puternic ramane tot in grupul VAG, 6l V12 TDI @500CP  ;D

asta are 84 cp/L

o fi cel mai puternic, insa nu cel mai bun. (care ramine, bmw cu 95 cp/l) - vorbind de motoare diesel cu mai mult de 4 cilindri. ;)

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Din pacate cel mai mare cosmar al meu s-a implinit, Volvo a renuntat la motoarele in 5 cilindrii, ei au anuntat asta dar pana sa o faca deja concurenta directa avea motoare noi in 4 cilindrii.

La capitolul benzina pt prima data in istoria lui Volvo aceasta marca poate rivaliza cu BMW si MB la capitolul motoare, MB a trecut la motoare de 1.8L in 4 cilindrii, BMW a trecut la motoare de 2L si 4 cilindrii iar Volvo a trecut la motoare de 1.6L/2L si 4 cilindrii, motoare comparabile, performante comparabile nu mai exista nici o diferenta intre cele 3 modele de performanta si consum, diferente minime, lucru nemaintalnit acum 10 ani sa spunem cand un BMW cu motor de 2.5L scotea peste 200CP iar Volvo se chinuia sa scoata 170CP .

Viitorul suna interesant, nu bine pt ca motoarele suna ca niste ascutitori dar 240CP din 2L benzina este bine zic eu.

Astept cu nerabdare noile motoare diesel Volvo in 4 cilindrii, BMW a ridicat la fileu un 2L de 218CP, Volvo inca se lupta cu un 2.4L si 215CP.

Evident ca pt placerea soferului au ramas si motoare gurmande de 3 L si peste 3L, motoare facute sa sune bine mai degraba decat sa traga bine.

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"acum 10 ani sa spunem cand un BMW cu motor de 2.5L scotea peste 200CP iar Volvo se chinuia sa scoata 170CP ."

Probabil te referi doar la aspirate, nu ?

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BMW a ridicat la fileu un 2L de 218CP, Volvo inca se lupta cu un 2.4L si 215CP.

Ce inseamna o colaborare mica ci frantujii de la PSA

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bogdan e fan bmw. nu va mai luati de gusturile lui.

e suficient sa vina o data cu mine sau cu matrix sa vada diferenta. (da' nu prea vrea....)

volvo e masina , de cele mai multe ori, peste bmw , depinde de cine o piloteaza. ofera un compromis mai bun decit bmw.

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Depinde de motorizare. D5-ul cu siguranta cu este pentru piloti :lol:.....consider R a fi singura masina sportiva de la volvo.

Si in plus de asta, compania mai are mult in a invata sa proiecteze motoare de capacitati mici la performante mari!

Si intradevar, "volvo este masina" safe :D si cam atat.

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agr, tu stii ce e aia o masina safe ? volvo sint masini care pot fi utilizate si ca masini sportive. nu asa de simplu ca bmw.

bmw e mai safe decit volvo, daca asta te roade !

in schimb, volvo e un compromis mai BUN !

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Cand spui compromis, sub ce pretext o aplici?

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compromis intre bani,placere si ce iei pe banii aia si ce placere obtii de banii aia.

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Interesant... In noua turnatorie ce deserveste fabrica din Skovde, unde se produc/asambleaza majoritatea motoarelor de la Volvocars si tot grupul Volvo, lucreaza numai ~15 oameni. :confused2:

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"Right now, a group of around 15 people are working in the new foundry. The fact that much of the production process is automated is one of the reasons for the small number."

in romania ar mai fi nevoie de inca vreo 35-40 de sefi....

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si vre-o 15 ani sa termine constructia!

Paaaaaiii, sa vedem:

Din punctul meu de vedere, volvo este peste bmw la calitatea materialelor interioare si la conforul pe care il ofera in pozitia de sofat, evident tinuta de drum fiind mai buna! La design, sincer tot volvo prefer, chit ca este mai butucanos, este mai bussines. Ca dotari, nu prea cunosc, pentru ca nu sunt fun bmw, deci nu m-a interesat!

Sunt mai scumpi cei de la bmw la achizitie dar mai ieftini la accesorii si piese decat volvo!

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